INTERVIEW
V
ice Adm. William Hilarides,
the commander of the Na-
val Sea Systems Command
(NAVSEA), recently spoke
to a small group of reporters about his
vision for NAVSEA and the challenges
and opportunities he faces. A decline
in the number of skilled Sailors able to
conduct repairs onboard their ships; an
aging civilian workforce; balancing ca-
pability with affordability and achieving
commonality are priority issues for Hila-
rides and his staff.
To reduce the total lifecycle cost of
its ships, the Navy eliminated some sea
duty positions for Sailors on ships in the
late 1990s. Hilarides says the Navy’s
reduction of personnel on ships, their
associated training, as well as eliminat-
ing subsequent shore assignments where
they provided technical support may
have saved some money, but had a nega-
tive effect in the long run.
“We went through a period where
downsized the size of the crews. I would
say we probably went a little too far. We
took them out of the equation to a great
measure, and we have to put them back
in. So we’re putting back into the en-
gineering departments on most of our
ships enough people so that the Sailors
can learn how to maintain their own
ship. That actually makes it more re-
silient from a war fi ghting perspective.
When you’re in battle, and damage oc-
curs, you want to be able to fi x it your-
self,” Hilarides says. “We still have to
help our Sailors to be able to work on
their own ships.”
“What makes chief petty offi cer a real
technical expert is working on the equip-
ment. So we have to re-empower them in
that,” he says. “This will help with that
maintenance burden, and so lower the
cost of an individual availability; make
the ship more resilient; and, frankly, it’ll
make happier sailors. They join, gener-
ally, to learn technical skills and not let-
ting them work on their own equipment
is really, in my personal opinion, deny-
ing them what they signed up to be in the
Navy for—to learn those hard technical
skills. We have to make sure we fulfi ll
our part of that bargain.”
Hilarides says the Navy has reestab-
lished intermediate maintenance activi-
ties inside the regional maintenance cen-
ters, and that will provide a path for that
second class petty offi cer who can start
taking his equipment apart. “When he
goes back to sea as a fi rst class, he’s had
more knowledge and expertise.”
“An amphibious ship has 10 fi re pumps
on board, and it makes a mess when the
seals on one of them begin to leak. 20
years ago the repair department would
come down, lift the casing, fi gure out
what was wrong, replace bearings and
seals, align it, put the casing back on,
seal it, test it, and put it back in service
on the ship,” says Hilarides. “Today this
job is done by an outside contractor. So
if your sailors learn about that pump,
then go ashore and work on that pump,
then come back as the chief or the fi rst
class of the division, they have a chance
to be competent to take on that repair and
execute it successfully.”
“To get a new recruit through A school,
onto a ship where he or she is actually
working on their equipment, then ashore
to that IMA to learn more, and then back
to a ship as a chief petty offi cer, that’s 10
or 15 years,” says Hilarides. “It’s a slow
rebuild.”
Hilarides says that NAVSEA and the
naval shipyards have a senior workforce,
with many workers eligible to retire.
“There was a period of almost 10 or
15 years where we really didn’t hire, and
it has created a “demographic hump”
where we have a lot of people 30 and
younger, and 55 and older, a pretty good
valley in between,” he says. “The older
workers will retire when they reach that
“sweet spot” in their retirement program.
So they’re leaving at a steady, predict-
able rate. But when that 55 or 60 year
old worker walks out the door, they
walk out with 35 years of experience,
and somebody with 15 years’ experience
has to take their place. So we need to
capture the best practices for modern
knowledge management, and accelerate
the learning of this person with only 15
years’ experience.”
Hilarides sees both a threat and an op-
portunity. “We’re partnering the 35 year
olds with 55 year olds to capture that
knowledge and share that journeyman
experience. The threat, of course, is that
somebody walks out the door with the
knowledge that only they have and that
you can’t get any other way. And gen-
erally, we fi nd that when they walk out,
there’s some system that’s in its 32nd
year, a 688-class high-pressure brine
pump, and there’s one person that still
knows how it was designed and how to
fi x it. We make sure we keep a good tab
on that person so we know where they
went in their retirement, knowing we
can get them back for brief periods. The
opportunity there is why do we still fi x
it that way? And is there a better idea?
That young person coming up without
some of those blinders may have a better
way to do it.”
Modernizing and Maintaining
Combatants usually get a mid-life mod-
ernization to bring their combat systems
up to date, but not always at the same
time as they repair the hull, mechanical
and electrical systems. It’s a daunting
task, Hilarides says. “When we go to
modernize at the same time we’re doing
maintenance—where we take a ship of-
fl ine for up to a year, and you want it to
come out ready to go on several deploy-
ments with all the best stuff—you have
this very large package that includes
tank painting, main engine overhauls, all
that sort of really hard stuff, at the same
time that you are putting a new network
on it, and a new radar on it, as with Aegis
modernization. We had treated those as
two separate things that happened sort of
Vice Adm. William
Commander, Naval Sea
Systems Command
By Edward Lundquist
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